Saturday, August 20, 2005

Discussion

Im not sure how I feel about this quote I came across from one of the most stern ascetics of the 7th century named John the ladder. I would like you to read it, think about it, and let me know your thoughts in the comments section. Topic..teachers...

"If some are still dominated by their former bad habits, and yet can teach by mere words, let them teach... For perhaps, being put to shame by their own words, they will eventually begin to practice what they teach."

...Discuss.

5 comments:

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Iz said...

I'm not sure how I feel about this quote, either. On one hand, growth CAN come from eventually practicing what we preach. (if we're preaching truth.) We can't help but change to what we talk about day after day. Be it what we've seen on tv, or read in books, ...what goes in, eventually comes out. And if a teacher prepares the "mere words" to teach, those words are going in as well as going out. (did that make sense?) But on the other hand, what of the students? If the teacher is 'still dominated' by the bad habits, how can that be completely separated from the words? And what do the students actually learn? Mixed messages? So, I'm not sure how I feel about this quote, either. I'll be interested to know what other readers think too.

Magnanimity said...

We don't want to be hypocrites. I think of something I am doing as a Mom for my kids this school year. Rather than worrying about them, I'm making a scripture book of things I wanted to teach them this summer, and well, there is still progress to be made. As I leave scriptures, I realize how much is still out of order in my own life. But, do I neglect to try to impact and teach my kids just because I don't entirely have my act together? No. I want my example to teach them, and it should, and will...but, truly, it's only by the grace of God and his truth, the perfect example of Christ than anything can ever "stick". I do and will fail. So, in those terms, I can't afford to wait.

I work on my own life, not being satisfied, while also pushing those around me. If I am a complacent teacher...I think words will have little impact. If I am a humble teacher still learning, I will have impact.

Disciples are, according to Campus Crusade for Christ, faithful, available, and teachable. Any teacher not exibiting those traits has little to teach or learn himiself, I think.

Interested in your response. Nice to find your blog. Linked from shlog.

MOM said...

If nothing else, I think we reinforce better behavior by teaching others the ideals we are ourselves seeking. It is a positive reinforcement for me, the teacher, while I teach the plan to others. I learn, they learn, and we all grow. But the intent must be to grow and improve personally as well as to help the "students". Very interesting quote.

tunz4jesus said...

I see on your reading list you have Brennan Manning frequently listed. Great teacher, insightful, has fallen back into the bottle a time or several, knows how to run to the Father and not to remain in depair. What if it is not about the teacher but about the student? student's heart? Fallen teachers show me how to be a gracious mother and loving child of God.

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